From what i can see, it sounds like it would be better to use dedicated digital aes cables, as their is a difference in the ohmsresistance, etc. It will play 2496 through hdmi and it sounds great. Works flawlessly, but im just wondering about if it may be an advanced to switch to usb and ditched the rme. To use the alpha usb with a windows machine, you must install the supplied driver. Plus, you can customize your io further with one empty bay for expansion play. At present im using the 18 inch output to my mackie dfx 6 mixer. Weiss dac2minerva features jitter free from aes, spdif or directly connected to pcmac. The extruded aluminium case has protective rubber bezels at each end. The reclocking circuitry and selectable cable equalization in poda ensures that the incoming digital audio signal is. A standard tascam pinout db25 connector to xlr aes ebu version or db25 to bnc spdif version is used for connectivity. Kworld dvd maker usb 2 0 vs usb2800d driver download 2020. A dtype connector based aes ebu inputoutput card with 8 inputs and 8 outputs. Poda is a dual aes ebu digital to analog audio converter. Channel 1 is in subframe 1 and channel 2 is in subframe 2.
Aes ebu can be singleended, balanced, or optical, this cable is a balanceddigital interconnect. The mixart8aes ebu is the same with a addon card that offers further 4 digital stereo audio inputs and outputs. Furthermore the addon card offers external clock synchronisation aes ebu, word clock, time code and video synchro. As much as i like my dlink iii, im thinking about selling it and getting a dac that can handle an aes ebu input. I assume you mean the post that contains the problem with any serial interface is jitter. I hate using this means of output because it is really a headphone jack and im using a cheap hosa cable instead of mogami, which i. But my soontoown professional studio monitors, genelec 8351a, only accept analogue input and then the professional digital format aes ebu. It also comes with 2 additional channels of aes ebu io, 2 channels of spdif io, and 8 additional channels of adat io.
And while aes eb cables may look like ordinary microphone cables, they are very different. Jitter comes from timing problems occuring in this case from the process of taking the serial data and separating it back into its three components of clocks and musical data. Universal serial bus is a bus and thus may be shared with many concurrent apps and services. The aes16 offers unprecedented aes ebu channel capacity and routing flexibility in a single pci card format. Aes ebu developed by the audio engineering society and the european broadcast union are the twochannel digital standard for interconnecting digital devices. Windows driver v2 build 23i for pcie and thunderbolt november, 2017 archived. Aes is clearly limited to 24bit even when running a 32bit dac as most asio streams. Anyone favoring aesebu or spdif over usb connection to. Howdy all which is better to use, usb vs aesebu the aesebu cables cost lots more i have. The front plate has two xlr connectors for the aes ebu digital audio inputs and outputs. Hdspe raydat rme audio interfaces format converters. Windows driver v2 build 23j for pcie and thunderbolt january 17, 2019 archived. Hdsp 9652 offers 3 x adat optical io, adatsync in, spdif io and word clock io.
On top, there are 2 midi ios and totalmix, a dspbased realtime mixerrouter, with hardwarecalculated level metering and complete midi remote capability. Id prefer an ethernet to aesebu converter, but a usb to aes ebu converter will also be interesting. Sn65lvds1 and sn65lvds2 as a driver and receiver for aes. I have a usb cable and also have bought some aes cables and have noticed a difference in sound between usb and aes. Aes vs spdif vs usb vs xlr fractal audio systems forum.
Page 1 of 2 1 2 next 6l6x4 new member thread starter. Aes3ebu reference design introduction the audio engineering society and the european broadcasting union developed the aes3 ebu digital audio transmission standard. Blackmagic forum view topic atem studio aesebu audio. The card is also equipped with two midi io ports, word clock io, and can be used with the optional tco module for synchronization to ltc and video. Rossini plays music through an array of industrystandard usb, aes and spdif digital inputs, and can stream over ethernet from a nas drive or online music. An xlrbased card with 2 pairs of aes ebu inputs and outputs 4in4out. Frankly i havent chance to test rosetta with different input formats. The second aes ebu specifications a small number of refinements, suggested by users of the interface, were recently addressed by the ebu and the aes 1992 when a second edition with a number of revisions and improvements was issued. I agree with a previous poster that this is just asking for trouble. Is it possible to use sn65lvds1 and sn65lvds2 as a driver and receiver for aes ebu and spdif digital audio signals. Oct 06, 20 i own a rme ufx as well and aes quality is not the same as analog or usb.
An aes3 signal can carry two channels of pcm audio over several transmission media including balanced lines, unbalanced lines, and optical fiber aes3 was jointly developed by the audio engineering society aes and the european broadcasting union ebu. At a glance vx222es is the reference stereo pcm sound card designed for operating in continuous 247365 use. Les cables pour liaison numerique petoin dominique. Best digital aesebu cables 2011 audiogon discussion. Aes ebu is the name of a digital audio transfer standard developed by aes and ebu. Aes3 also known as aes ebu is a standard for the exchange of digital audio signals between professional audio devices. The hdspe aes is a shortlength pci express card with aes ebu interfaces. If you pursue the aes ebu route and want some recommendation for the interface cards you liked to, i use marian adat interface boards, and they work reliably. Inputs and outputs are digital and available in 2 versions aes ebu or spdif. It is designed for use in any professional pcbased audio system running under windows and requiring balanced analog and aes ebu connectivity.
Digico provides a high performance, ultralowlatency driver for both windows and macintosh. Hi everyone, im using an apogee mini me converter box, usb version. Rio expansion module, which adds four reconfigurable sdi ios. I created an aggregated interface between axe fx and the ufx, then opened three different tracks with three different inputs, one for analog, one for aes one for usb, then recorded. It is designed for use in any professional pcbased audio system running under windows or linux and requiring balanced analog and aes ebu connectivity. Usb vs aesebu which one to use general hifi discussion. It provides eight aes inputs 16 channels and eight aes outputs 16 channels at 192 khz sample rate. It offers 8 channels of analog io, 8 channels of aes ebu io, 8 channels of tdif io, and 8 channels of adat smux io. My dac is a nad c 510, which has aes ebu digital input as well as usb, the aries has usb and also a aes ebu digital output. Want a dac with aesebu input steve hoffman music forums. The outputs are always active, but the analogue inputs are disregarded when an aes input, on the front plate, is present and locked. At the beginning of the 1980s, a number of individuals and organizations began to explore the possibility of developing a new digital audio interface.
With support for up to 16 channels of input and output at sample rates up to 192 khz, the aes16 turns your computer into a powerful digital router or patchbay with extensive flexibility with. Acousticallyconcealed woofers, minimum diffraction coaxial driver, accepts analog or aes ebu signal, outputs aes ebu signal for linking, directivity control waveguide, sam technology for automatic tuning, networkable via glm software, minimum diffraction enclosure, reflex port design, isopod stand included. Aes ebu is a 110ohm cable, i see no benefit from using any type of convertor to go spdif coax to balanced digital. Alas to my concern no this is just the starting point. Thanks to rmes secure flash update technology, firmware improvements, adjustments, and bugfixes can be installed easily at any time. Two internal adat inputs and two internal adat outputs. Currently i own a high quality digital coax cable from audioquest, the model is eagle eye, this is. The iec publication meanwhile, the iec followed quite a different line of development. Ebu tech 32502004 specification of the digital audio. So spdif, aes ebu, adat lightpipe are all equivalent for a 24bit 48khz stereo pair provided both ends can handle the wordlengths. Unfortunately, usb can be a flawed protocol for digital audio transmission. British manufacturers prism sound offer the dream ada 8xr, which can be configured to offer either 16 channels of ad or da conversion, or eight in each direction, and its various interfacing options allow it to connect to computers via firewire, aes ebu or as a.
Competition at the high end of the converter market is hot, although the aurora 16 is very competitively priced. But due to my converter setup its a must to run multiple audio devices in windows and reaper. Up to four multirate hdsd sdi video inputs or two video key. A separate bnc connector for wordclock output is provided. This is always matter of particular digital sender receiver combination ime, although generally said optical 2ch toslink has poorest technical parameters with regards to signal condition, jitter caused by reflections etc. Usb, toslink aka optical, coaxial or aesebu audio engineering societyeuropean broadcasting. Whats the view on the directstreams sq differences between usb and aes ebu. The aes and ebu published the specifications for the standard in 1992, revised it in 1995 and again in 1998.
Discussion in audio hardware started by 6l6x4, feb 7, 2011. Mon cable spdif 75 ohms avec prises canare est bleu. At a glance vx222e is the reference stereo pcm sound card designed for operating in continuous 247365 useenvironments as. All of these are connected in a oldschool way via aes ebu to a rme aes card. This was simply because computers have usb ports, not aesebu or other spdif ports. Im running a multiple converter setup in my studio, means adc and dac for the chain and another dac for monitoring. The minidsp udio8 is a pocket size usb asynchronous interface with support for up to 8 channels of audio recording and 8 channels of playback. Alsa driver for digigram mixart8 and mixart8aesebu.
Digiface dante uses rmes matured madiface series driver for windows and macos, with lowest latency and industry leading stability. Yellowtec puc2 usb audio interface analogue line and. Buy genelec 8331 sam studio monitor white finish featuring dual 5. A genuine pci express core consequently takes full advantage of the new format, achieving significant performance gains in multitrack audio. Sspdif transmitter component runs in a single core and can be found in. Usb is ideal for an antipodes server because it is architecturally superior to spdif, i2s and aes ebu, and generates much less noise in the dac than ethernet. The alpha usb is an asynchronous high speed usb audio 2. The coax of a bluray will only pass 2448k so i would say hdmi is the way to go for those with a 2. Hdspe raydat is the newly developed pci express version of the hdsp 9652. With a great external power supply, such as the sps500, the dxusb hd.
The usb cable is a 2m wireworld ultraviolet 7 and the aes is a dh labs silver sonic d110 1m length. Updates pci and cardbus card to hardware revision 1755, hdsp 9652 to 108. Ward beck poda dual aes ebu toanalog audio converter. Weiss picked firewire connection but not the more popular usb connections for reasons. Kworld dvd maker usb 2 0 vs usb2800d driver for windows 7 32 bit, windows 7 64 bit, windows 10, 8, xp. With 8th digital input through our mind 2 streaming module via wifi or ethernet. All support 2 channel audio with 24 bit words and 96 khz sample rate. Spdif is essentially a domestic version of aes ebu. Wellsupported drivers would be a prerequisite, however. The control bits carried along with the data payload differ for each of the formats. Connections for nad m51 dac audiogon discussion forum. There is no audio quality issue here, as the signal is already digital. Hopefully your pc would have the aes ebu or spdif more directly mapped and could avoid bus traffic. Blue jeans cable aesebu balanced audio cable, 10 foot this balanced audio cable is assembled in the usa, using usmanufactured cable stock and neutrik xlrs.
Uploaded on 4102019, downloaded 7895 times, receiving a 77100 rating by 4987 users. Spdif, i2s and aes ebu suffer because the system clock is in the server, not in the dac where it really should be, and this is typically heard as dirty and less coherent sound. Aes3 ebu is a serial pointtopoint interface that carries digital audio data over a standard cable. This function needs 1 thread and no memory other than 2800 bytes of program. The digital pcm or dop signal that comes in via toslink, rca, aesebu or usb is. The purcel upsamples to 24192 kss, but the only cabling method that is capable of delivering this highest upsampling is by using a pair of xlr aes ebu cables, each delivering 96 rates per cable, combined to deliver a total of 192 via the two cables at least for the dcs equipment. Berkeley audio design alpha usb interface the absolute sound.
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